A significant defeat for the Trump government in the federal court of appeal

27th March 2025

21 thoughts on “A significant defeat for the Trump government in the federal court of appeal”

  1. For everyone who thanks you for this (and we do!) it would be *ace* if you could just reply saying “Glad to be of service”.

  2. Another fantastic post. You have been the go-to read on these cases. Questions: what is the jurisprudential ideological dimension that makes Roberts and Coney Barrett swing voters on the Supreme Court? Is it simply an independent streak? Or is there actually a judicial ideology that makes them more ‘swing voters’ than Kavanaugh or Gorsuch? It’s clear that Alito and Thomas have extreme views on exec authority, at least for this president.

    1. “what is the jurisprudential ideological dimension that makes Roberts and Coney Barrett swing voters on the Supreme Court?”

      My view from reading their judgments, fwiw, is that although both conservative, both tend to reason outwards from the constitution, applying conservative principles. The others – especially Thomas and Alito – seem to me to reason backwards from the conclusions they want – with motivated reasoning. Roberts is also a minimalist – he dreally oes not like to decide more than is necessary to dispose of a case. This does not make them saints – and some of their decisions are very illiberal – but it means they are not “in the bag” for Trump supporters.

      This is not just a conservative thing though – liberals can also use motivated reasoning.

    2. > It’s clear that Alito and Thomas have extreme views on exec authority, at least for this president.

      They both endorse the (or a) unitary executive theory that Congress and the judicial branch should show nearly absolute deference to the executive (although I wonder whether a Democrat executive would enjoy the same deference).

  3. I know it is pedantic, but isn’t it “at least 3 years 10 months more” of this? Personally I do actually take comfort that a clock is ticking down and we have already passed 2 of the 48 months….

    1. I am sad that the comfort you gain on one hand is offset by the discomfort your pedantry must bring to you.

    2. The first ten thousand seconds were the worst, the next ten thousand, they were the worst too. After that I went into a bit of a decline.

  4. “And even his dissent admits that the individuals can use habeas corpus to challenge removals, but they have to do it (if they can) in the state they are being detained, if they somehow get notice.”

    This is not good news. It should have been unanimous. It is a ridiculous proposition that habeus is the correct and indeed only way to challenge a removal. The case law doesn’t support this and habeus is a challenge to detention, not deportation. None of the plaintiffs challenge their detention and the TRO does not prevent detention. It’s absurd.

    1. Sorry, by the way, for misspelling habeas twice.

      What I hate about this is that now he gets to rant and rave about how he should be allowed to fire all the federal court judges that he didn’t personally appoint so he can appoint their replacements. If he has not already said so, we will not be waiting long.

      The rule of law is hanging by a thread. As I’ve said before, even if SCOTUS should go against him, that will not spell the end of this dangerous behaviour. He will likely defy them.

  5. Douglas Adams prescient as ever. You brightened the morning of a fellow ‘Brummie’.

  6. You are doing sterling service with this series of explainers, David.

    This temporary restraining order might at least stop more deportation flights leaving for a while, at least until the affected individuals have an opportunity to challenge their seemingly arbitrary classification as “enemy aliens” on the basis of little to no evidence, but as far as I can see it does little to help the people already detained in the Salvadorian hellhole from which it seems no one is released. “Oopsie” indeed. The US government does seem to like these judicial no-spheres, like Guantanamo.

    It is disappointing to see an appeals judge relying on a theoretical right to seek judicial review from a local court, when any such right may be impossible to exercise and so in practice illusory. Just like the wonderful theoretical rights under the Soviet constitution. Long live Comrade Stalin.

    For the time being I would suggest anyone who is not a US citizen should think very carefully before voluntarily travelling to the US. Some quite horrific stories of people being detained at the border or seized off the streets by plainclothes immigration officers.

    1. “It is disappointing to see an appeals judge relying on a theoretical right to seek judicial review from a local court, when any such right may be impossible to exercise and so in practice illusory.”

      Walker seems fixated on the original writ of habeas corpus which has been abandoned. It’s as though the plaintiffs are not entitled to change their legal position but the government may.

      In examining the public interest, he makes the prospect of irreparable harm to sensitive diplomatic negotiations paramount, as though you couldn’t just stick someone on a plane to Venezuela, where they actually come from.

      Indeed, they might choose to voluntary return to Venezuela rather than end up in prison in some third country with which they have no relationship. The reasoning is tortuous.

  7. This makes the US extradition right over UK citizens look extremely unwise and unjustifiable. After all, the Court of Appeal said Rwanda was not safe enough to send immigrants to. They’d hardly support allowing UK citizens to be extradited to a country whose Government may send them to a Salvadorean “mega prison” without warning would they ?

  8. Potential deportees are going to find it harder to find anyone to act for them if Trump’s latest actions against law firms are anything to go by, what with the Attorney General directed “to seek sanctions against attorneys and law firms who engage in frivolous, unreasonable, and vexatious litigation against the United States or in matters before executive departments and agencies of the United States.”
    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/preventing-abuses-of-the-legal-system-and-the-federal-court/

    https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/27/politics/law-firms-trump-attacks/index.html

    1. The memorandum is hogwash. Pure political posturing.

      “To address these concerns, I hereby direct the Attorney General to seek sanctions against attorneys and law firms who engage in frivolous, unreasonable, and vexatious litigation against the United States or in matters before executive departments and agencies of the United States.”

      Any such action deemed frivolous or vexatious would be thrown out. An action which is not thrown out cannot be deemed frivolous or vexatious. “Unreasonable” doesn’t even make sense, and the fact that all of these terms are joined by “and” means they would all have to be true. It’s idiotic in the extreme, but what else would we expect? The AG can pursue whatever sanctions he likes if he wants to be an idiot. Law firms will not be deterred by this.

  9. They are too savvy to fall for the memo. But watch their bowels turn to water when Musk’s thugs, armed and dressed up as U.S. marshals, march into their offices and slap on the cable-ties.

    (I don’t know what pronouns Pam Bondi prefers, but I can guess.)

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