Oh Canada

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  1. > with its own acronym and permanent staff

    I propose a new treaty. A federated union of democracies treaty. With it’s own acronym.

  2. It is an interesting thought, and right now, being in the middle of the MAGA-fuelled chaos rippling through the world, there are attractions for Europeans and Canadians alike. Even interested outsiders like us.

    But in addition to all the points you rightly make, there might be a few other reasons why it wouldn’t happen.

    First, the impact within Canada might be divisive. Quebec wouldn’t be the issue, the cultural and economic links with France would see to that. But further west there could easily be problems, in particular in Alberta, which is home to some MAGA-adjacent rightwing populists. I doubt they would be too chuffed about Canada joining a new, highly sophisticated supranational association based a continent and an ocean away.

    Second, if Canada really were to join the EU, there would be a lot of people in Turkey who would ask how come they were (effectively) rejected, with plenty of Europeans saying Turks aren’t European enough to be in the EU. At a time when the EU needs to be fortifying its relationships with strategically crucial Turkey, that might not be an issue to open up.

    Anyway, as you say, this is a thought-experiment. The more likely response to the Trumpist Right’s determination to burn the international order is looser relationships, centred on EU and NATO members, but also including the likes of Ukraine, Mexico and perhaps those even further afield, like Japan, Korea and Australia.

  3. Fun article. There is of course a part of North America which is already in the EU – step forward St Pierre and Miquelon near the mouth of the St. Lawrence river.
    And what about the antipodes? Japan & S. Korea? Of other actual, or would be democracies? There is a less flippant question in the event of a fortress America/ Trump of whether the RoW needs to impose tarifs between themselves.

  4. I think this thought experiment could well become reality. Trump’s unreliable behaviour makes the USA a very unreliable ally. Countries will align elsewhere in search of economic partnerships. Canada will never join the EU, but it already has a trade agreement with it and that link could be built on. Greenland is physically closer to Canada than the USA and might seek closer links with it to help fend off Trump’s demands. Panama might seek closer links with China. The UK will be forced to move closer to the EU again as a trade agreement with the USA becomes an increasingly undesirable prospect.

    It may just need to be temporary shelter, because I can see the Republicans suffering badly in the 2028 election, assuming there is one. 😉

  5. The era of Pax Americana appears to be waning. Under the leadership of Trump, Musk, Vance, and the enabling Republicans, the United States has retreated into an “America First” stance. This approach combines appeasement on one hand with transactional negotiations with adversaries on the other. While Ukraine faces threats, Israel—often regarded as America’s “51st state”—receives unwavering support, and the ongoing plight of Palestinians is largely ignored.

    In response to the current global turbulence, BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa) has emerged as a potential counterbalance. The bloc has expanded to include former rivals like Saudi Arabia and Iran, among others. However, some of these alliances seem uneasy, making it difficult to envision the EU, UK, and Canada aligning comfortably with such a diverse group.

    Exploring “what if” scenarios, an unexpected partner for the EU, UK, and Canada could be China. Despite being portrayed by the U.S. as a looming threat to the West for years, the question arises: is China truly a threat to the West, or just to the U.S.? The U.S., after all, has been gradually outpaced by China in technological advancements, much to its dismay. China’s achievements include a vast high-speed rail network, advancements in AI (e.g., DeepSeek), and possibly even sixth-generation stealth aircraft like the J-36 and JH-XX.

    While China’s system is far from democratic, pragmatic considerations might lead the EU, UK, and Canada to seek alternatives to an increasingly unstable and unreliable America.

    1. That’s an interesting article. Perhaps we could long-term look to a democratic economic union (DEU) which would welcome in those countries committed to democracy and promotion of economic and social well-being which includes Canada and other countries but excludes a liberal countries without a commitment to democracy. This should also enable collective defence against aggression.

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