Trying to make sense of the nonsensical decision to drop the Chinese spying prosecutions

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  1. I don’t have any particular inside knowledge, but I have been following the reporting by the bloggers you mention. If I had to bet, my guess as to the most likely explanation would involve the following elements:

    1. For diplomatic reasons, the UK government doesn’t want to say that China is an enemy of the UK.

    2. Saying that the evidentiary test continues to be met, but that it is contrary to the public interest to prosecute these individuals does not accomplish 1.

    3. The DPP doesn’t want to say he screwed up the evidentiary test when he didn’t.

    4. Some form of compromise was negotiated whereby the blame was put on the Court of Appeal judgment.

    5. Unfortunately the compromise doesn’t quite work. Even more unfortunately, it involves lying to Parliament.

    1. That is as good an explanation as any. Where we agree is that the current accounts do not make sense.

  2. Does any of the published information support the alternative theory, as put forward by Ken Macdonald and Tim Owen on Double Jeopardy pod that after a late defence expert submission, SIS got cold feet and pulled some evidence that they would rather not get into open court, thus tipping back the balance of evidence / public interest to not continuing with the prosecution?

  3. My thought is that ‘a country with whom the UK might some day be at war’ is a description that applies to all countries – even those who are, at present, our closest allies; and that there are (and always will be) some secrets that we will want to keep from them, just in case. We’ve already been at war with most of them, at some time or other. Even when our alliance with the USA was at it’s closest, in WW2, and Churchill said ‘share everything’, it was followed by ‘except…’. It may have been a short list, but it was there.

  4. Surely the fact that these people were spying on us is prima facie evidence that their masters are our enemy, for why else would they be spying on us?

    1. Contrarily, it is a little odd that this is limited to enemy – whatever that means this week – whereas making the same disclosure of secrets to an ally is outside the scope.

      Disclosures are not made to a country, but to a person or people, also.

      IANAL

  5. I remember hearing of a case – and it might have been in a film or spy novel – where a person was persuaded to hand over national security secrets to someone on the understanding that they would be passed onto an ally (I seem to recall, Israel or South Africa). But in fact, the intermediary was working for Russia and that’s where the information was going.

    If the statutory phrasing is “useful to *an* enemy” then why all the fuss about whether, when China received it, they were a national security threat. Surely the evidence required is on the nature of the information that was shared, not the recipient of that information?

    1. Exactly. I’ve no formal training in law but reading the Act I find no part of it which demands the identity of “the enemy”

  6. The point you make about an enemy is something I’ve been mulling over in my head, too.

    I see no reason, from the wording of the statute, that a specific enemy need be identified, much less be labelled in some way or another.

    In my view, the correct test to apply is whether the information would be useful to a country with which we are at war, or likely to go to war, or to a country which is a threat to the UK’s national security.

    I believe this reading is comparable with an offence under section 58 of the Terrorism Act 2000; which refers to the collection of information of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism, but which wouldn’t require a specific terrorist to be named!

  7. All very curious. What secrets were passed across – the brand of cup used in the Member’s Tearoom perhaps. What remuneration was received – brown envelopes stuffed with Joss paper money perhaps. What murky hold did the Chinese have over these chaps.

    Frightfully embarrassing if one were forced to declare China an ‘enemy’. The Chinese are pretty sensitive to these things and to do so might ruffle feathers or even cause trade problems or fewer well paying students. Bad form, better kept quiet. So why be so clumsy as to get the CPS involved?

    We might ask Cui Bono. One chap was a parliamentary researcher so might know something vaguely interesting but also well aware the SIS has long arms and sharp teeth and big ears. Pretty daft to get into proper secret stuff. But then the SIS has a budget to defend and may just occasionally come under pressure from The Cousins to express disapproval of China, a bit of stirring would not come amiss.

    So we await the publication of ‘evidence’ with bated breath and fully expect to be — not much wiser.

  8. Took a look at the ‘evidence’. If what is published is to be believed it seems something fairly undesirable going on that needed stopping. Not really in 007 territory but it seems that charging under the Official Secrets Act has become a bit problematical what with who is and is not an ‘enemy’.

    So a flea in the ear and a sacking from Parliament would seem the way to go. Perhaps even that becomes problematical from an employment tribunal point of view. Then a transfer to the Outer Hebrides office would seem an attractive option. Seems a lot of fuss and cost over a fairly trivial matter which begs the question – who manages these things?

  9. Insightful as always. So the potential alternate scenario, create a mess, the resulting opaqueness facilitating a resigned and ‘exasperated’ withdrawal… Geopolitics is everywhere.

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